{"id":277,"date":"2020-06-29T00:02:00","date_gmt":"2020-06-28T22:02:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/localhost\/cos\/?p=277"},"modified":"2025-04-04T00:03:06","modified_gmt":"2025-04-03T22:03:06","slug":"zasto-ja-a-zasto-ne-oni","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/osmanistika.ba\/index.php\/2020\/06\/29\/zasto-ja-a-zasto-ne-oni\/","title":{"rendered":"Za\u0161to ja, a za\u0161to ne oni?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Dok sam se kao srednjo\u0161kolac upoznavao s natpisima na osmanskom po raznim historijskim spomenicima grada Burse, razmi\u0161ljao sam o sljede\u0107em: Oko mene se nalaze nekakvi natpisi koje ja ne znam (pro)\u010ditati. Za\u0161to? To mi je jako te\u0161ko padalo. Za\u0161to ja kao dje\u010dak koji se \u0161koluje i \u017eivi u Bursi ne znam \u010ditati osmanske natpise oko sebe, levhe u haremima d\u017eamija i sli\u010dno. Tako sam po\u010deo u\u010diti osmanski jezik. Iz dana\u0161nje perspektive to mi se doima kao da sam izlazio ispod neke ru\u0161evine. Sli\u010dno ugro\u017eenima od zemljotresa koji su ostali pod zidinama pa tra\u017ee izlaz. I danas smo jo\u0161 uvijek u takvom stanju, na neki na\u010din.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Da se kojom sre\u0107om 1928. godine<a href=\"file:\/\/\/C:\/Users\/Korisnik\/Desktop\/Intervju.docx#_ftn1\">[1]<\/a>&nbsp;barem za jednu skupinu u dru\u0161tvu napravilo mjesto u obrazovnom sistemu koja \u0107e neprekidno izu\u010davati osmanski jezik. Smatram da je nu\u017eno da osoba koja za sebe tvrdi da je intelektualac, da ima ne\u0161to re\u0107i o svojoj domovini, da ima stav kada je u pitanju pro\u0161lost, poznaje osmanski. Za\u0161to? Zato \u0161to je nemogu\u0107e s alfabetom \u010dija je starost 90-tak godina upoznati i iskazati sebe. Nedavno sam u jednoj kolumni objavio jedan dokument. Godine 1919. sa Kongresa u Sivasu<a href=\"file:\/\/\/C:\/Users\/Korisnik\/Desktop\/Intervju.docx#_ftn2\">[2]<\/a>&nbsp;\u0161alje se jedno pismo ameri\u010dkom Senatu. Iako Mustafa Kemal u svom \u201eGovoru\u201c negira postojanje takvog pisma, ja sam ga prona\u0161ao na Univerzitetu Standford i objavio. Objavio sam i original na osmanskom koji se nalazi u stenogramima s Kongresa. Napisali su ga na engleskom, sa vodenim \u017eigom i poslali. Te 1919. godine potpisali su se latinicom. Jedan \u010ditatelj mi je nakon \u0161to je pro\u010ditao kolumnu napisao: \u201eNisam znao pro\u010ditati pismo na osmanskom, ali sam ga pro\u010ditao na engleskom jeziku. To je \u0161okantno! Englezi znaju pro\u010ditati pismo napisano 1919. na engleskom, ali ja ne znam to pro\u010ditati na osmanskom. To nije njihov problem, ja sam taj koji je hendikepiran. Za\u0161to ja, a za\u0161to ne oni?\u201c Mnogi na\u0161i ljudi koji za sebe ka\u017eu da su intelektualci, posebno histori\u010dari revolucije (1923.), period prije 1928. godine vide kao mra\u010dno doba. Ako ne umije\u0161 pro\u010ditati jedno obi\u010dno pismo, pozivnicu ili obi\u010dnu napomenu iz nekog perioda, kako onda mo\u017ee\u0161 imati neko mi\u0161ljenje ili stav o tom periodu?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Tako\u0111er, potrebno je vidjeti i dimenzije \u0161tete ili koristi kada je ova tema u pitanju. \u201eOpro\u0161taj\u201c od osmanskog jezika i pisma prouzrokovao je i sljede\u0107u \u0161tetnu dimenziju: historija i knji\u017eevnost su nazadovali za najmanje pet decenija. Pretra\u017eite kataloge magistarskih i doktorskih teza danas, vidjet \u0107ete da su odsjeci za historiju i knji\u017eevnost najve\u0107im dijelom zauzeti transkripcijom tekstova s osmanskog na latinski. Je li to uredu? To nije prahistorija, ve\u0107 profesori na katedrama sjede i poku\u0161avaju de\u0161ifrovati i na latinski prenijeti tekstove od prije 90-tak godina. Ja postavljam pitanje: Da nije bilo jezi\u010dke revolucije, \u0161ta bi na\u0161i odsjeci radili? Umjesto toga, davali bi nove tekstove. Pisali bi poja\u0161njenja, kritike, donosili bi ne\u0161to novo. A \u0161ta mi radimo? Jo\u0161 uvijek prenosimo osmanske tekstove u latinski alfabet. Za\u0161to se kod nas ne razvija knji\u017eevnost ili historija? Upravo zbog toga. Englez ili pripadnik neke druge nacije s lahko\u0107om \u010dita tekstove od prije sto godina, a mi to ne mo\u017eemo. Jo\u0161 uvijek prevodi\u0161 stare knjige, tapka\u0161 u mjestu. Nismo svjesni toga, ali to stanje pravi neopisivu \u0161tetu na mentalnu konstituciju na\u0161eg intelektualca.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Rahmetli Atif Yilmaz je jedne prilike rekao: \u201eMi smo napravili mnogo filmova, ali je nemogu\u0107e da oni imaju trajniji karakter.\u201c Pitali smo ga: \u201eZa\u0161to?\u201c Odgovor mu je glasio: \u201eZar se mo\u017ee napraviti trajno djelo sa alfabetom od 75 godina?\u201c To je kazao jedan poznati re\u017eiser. Kazao je: \u201eJer ja ne poznajem ono \u0161to je bilo starije od 75 godina.\u201c Nastavio je: \u201eNe mogu to \u010ditati svojim o\u010dima, analizirati, ako stavite preda me ne razumijem. Tako se suo\u010davam sa svijetom koji je s jedne strane zatvoren za mene, a na drugoj strani je neki Englez ili Kinez koji jednostavno \u010dita svoju hiljadugodi\u0161nju pro\u0161lost. To ima nevjerovatan utjecaj na \u010dovjeka, na\u0161i izvori napajanja su ograni\u010deni. Ostaje ti, poput nekog prosjaka, da \u010deka\u0161 kada \u0107e neko ne\u0161to prevesti, nisi slobodan, ne mo\u017ee\u0161 da \u010dita\u0161 \u0161iroko i duboko kako bi \u017eelio. Sa alfabetom starim 75 godina imamo film kakav imamo.\u201c<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Dakle, ova tema ne zanima samo histori\u010dare, ve\u0107 i ostale stru\u010dnjake.&nbsp; Od filma do teatra, od filozofije do novinarstva, u mnogim oblastima imamo tu prazninu, iako smo nesvjesni toga, jasna je destrukcija koja postoji. Za\u0161to historija, knji\u017eevnost, umjetnost jednog zapadnjaka ide dalje, a na\u0161a je stala na jednom mjestu, do\u017eivjela diskontinuitet. Izvori moga intelektualnog napajanja se na jednom mjestu prekidaju, dok se njihovi nastavljaju, idu dalje, bez stanke. I ja sam, \u010dak, zbog tog prekida \u010desto zadovoljan! Jo\u0161 ka\u017eem, sva sre\u0107a pa je do\u0161lo do prekida! Sada oni imaju bujnu rijeku, a ja iz nekih malih pritoka poku\u0161avam ne\u0161to zagrabiti. Zar je mogu\u0107a takva kultura? Zar je mogu\u0107e da na taj na\u010din kulturna djela imaju isti kvalitet? Isti\u010demo imena kao \u0161to su Junus Emre ili Mevlana D\u017eelaludin Rumi. Sve je to uredu, ali smisao koji nose ove li\u010dnosti dobivaju na zna\u010denju tek onda kada se analiziraju u okviru velike kulturalne sredine u kojoj su \u017eivjeli. Mevlana Rumi nije \u010dovjek bez konteksta. Kada se stavi u kontekst sa Hafizom \u0160irazijem, Ibn Arebijom ili Sanaijom, u tom slu\u010daju se dolazi do potpune slike. Tek tada Mevlana postaje Mevlana. Ako se izvu\u010de iz konteksta, ne razumije se, svaka njegova rije\u010d se shvata kao neko \u010dudo. Junus Emre je napisao djelo pod naslovom&nbsp;<em>Risaletu-n-Nushijje<\/em>. Analizirajte ga. Ni oni koji tvrde da znaju \u010ditati Junusa ne bi shvatili ovo djelo. To je jedan duboki metafizi\u010dki izvor, ali se ne zna dovoljno o njemu.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">U takvom stanju poku\u0161avate uraditi ne\u0161to, ali sve je to parcijalno, ne dolazi se do cjeline. Da li mo\u017eemo na taj na\u010din napraviti pravu, temeljitu i trajnu estetiku? Treba razmi\u0161ljati o tome. Naprimjer, Iran je uspio u tome. U velikoj mjeri je izbjegao sudbinu raskida sa vlastitom pro\u0161losti. U filmu, pjesni\u0161tvu, slikarstvu nema prekida s tradicijom. Danas je to na razini visoke tehnologije. To zna\u010di da promjena alfabeta ne mora da zna\u010di nazadak jedne zemlje. Kao \u0161to nije ni uzrok napretka sam po sebi. Naprimjer, s jednim alfabetom smo napravili pomak u doba Gazalije, ali s istim tim alfabetom smo do\u017eivjeli i dekadencu kasnije. Va\u017eno je na koji se na\u010din alfabet kontekstualizira. No, potrebno je raditi na ru\u0161enju stereotipa da je osmanski jezik, jezik pro\u0161losti koji nema mjesta u sada\u0161njici. Treba se i danas u\u010diti, koristiti, biti predmet interesovanja i studiranja.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Autor: Mustafa Arma\u011fan, turski pisac, kolumnista i histori\u010dar<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Preveo i prilagodio: dr. Sedad Be\u0161lija<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Iz Intervjua u \u010casopisu za obrazovanje i kulturu \u201eOsmanl\u0131ca\u201c, br. 4, god. 2013.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"file:\/\/\/C:\/Users\/Korisnik\/Desktop\/Intervju.docx#_ftnref1\">[1]<\/a>&nbsp;Godina u kojoj je do\u0161lo do tzv. \u201ejezi\u010dke revolucije\u201c u Republici Turskoj, prelazak na latinski alfabet.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"file:\/\/\/C:\/Users\/Korisnik\/Desktop\/Intervju.docx#_ftnref2\">[2]<\/a>&nbsp;Kongres koji je utemeljio modernu Republiku Tursku, pod vo\u0111stvom Mustafe K. 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